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Or I'll ... forget that"},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3006.5,"endTime":3011.0,"body":"I'm- I'm a- I'm a mom, you know?"},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3011.0,"endTime":3011.5,"body":"And-"},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3011.5,"endTime":3012.0,"body":"Mm-hmm."},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3012.0,"endTime":3014.5,"body":"-I have these"},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3012.0,"endTime":3014.5,"body":"obligations, because I was"},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3014.5,"endTime":3017.7,"body":"thinking, \"Ah, in college, I"},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3014.5,"endTime":3017.7,"body":"didn't struggle this much, did"},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3017.7,"endTime":3018.0,"body":"I?\""},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3018.0,"endTime":3018.5,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3018.5,"endTime":3020.5,"body":"Like, \"I got it.\" Like,"},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3018.5,"endTime":3020.5,"body":"\"What- what's different from"},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3020.5,"endTime":3022.7,"body":"college and now?\" I mean, I was"},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3020.5,"endTime":3022.7,"body":"-- like, college was like 15"},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3022.7,"endTime":3024.5,"body":"years ago. 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Well, I wanna thank"},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3117.0,"endTime":3122.3,"body":"you, Yolanda, for being here and"},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3122.3,"endTime":3125.3,"body":"sharing your journey with us."},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3122.3,"endTime":3125.3,"body":"Cuz I think this is super"},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3125.3,"endTime":3130.7,"body":"valuable and a lot of people are"},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3125.3,"endTime":3130.7,"body":"gonna learn from this episode."},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3130.7,"endTime":3135.0,"body":"Are there any -- do you wanna"},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3130.7,"endTime":3135.0,"body":"share any of your biggest"},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3135.0,"endTime":3139.5,"body":"lessons or tips for those out"},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3135.0,"endTime":3139.5,"body":"there listening, before we head"},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3139.5,"endTime":3140.539,"body":"off for the day?"},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3144.704,"endTime":3146.084,"body":"Ah, biggest question."},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3144.704,"endTime":3146.084,"body":"Um ... take your time. It takes"},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3146.084,"endTime":3148.7,"body":"time. Sorry. I should say, it"},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3146.084,"endTime":3148.7,"body":"takes time. Everything takes"},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3148.7,"endTime":3154.0,"body":"time. Try to have that ingrained"},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3148.7,"endTime":3154.0,"body":"in your head. It's just ..."},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3154.0,"endTime":3157.62,"body":"everything takes time."},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3154.0,"endTime":3157.62,"body":"Networking takes time. Learning"},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3157.62,"endTime":3160.5,"body":"how to code takes time. Finding"},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3157.62,"endTime":3160.5,"body":"a job takes time [chuckles]."},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3160.5,"endTime":3164.3,"body":"Then, you know, the- the main"},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3160.5,"endTime":3164.3,"body":"foundation is -- it- it just, it"},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3164.3,"endTime":3167.534,"body":"takes time. So, I wish I had"},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3164.3,"endTime":3167.534,"body":"that ingrained in me, instead"},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3167.534,"endTime":3172.289,"body":"of hurry, hurry, hurry, fear of"},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3167.534,"endTime":3172.289,"body":"missing out. It's just stop,"},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3172.44,"endTime":3176.07,"body":"breathe, and like, \"Okay, it's"},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3172.44,"endTime":3176.07,"body":"gonna- it's gonna take time. And"},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3176.099,"endTime":3179.13,"body":"that is okay. That is definitely"},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3176.099,"endTime":3179.13,"body":"okay. I'm not gonna miss out"},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3179.13,"endTime":3183.57,"body":"on jobs. I'm not gonna miss out"},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3179.13,"endTime":3183.57,"body":"on opportunities. Because I'm"},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3183.57,"endTime":3187.3,"body":"just gonna focus on what I can"},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3183.57,"endTime":3187.3,"body":"do at this moment in time. And"},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3187.3,"endTime":3191.3,"body":"if that's all I can do, that's"},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3187.3,"endTime":3191.3,"body":"all I can do.\" So, just- just"},{"speaker":"Yolanda","startTime":3191.3,"endTime":3192.09,"body":"take it easy [chuckles]."},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3194.074,"endTime":3196.5,"body":"I love that. Yeah, I love"},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3194.074,"endTime":3196.5,"body":"that advice a lot [chuckles]. I"},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3196.5,"endTime":3200.5,"body":"think that- I think that's a"},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3196.5,"endTime":3200.5,"body":"great note to end on. And I"},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3200.5,"endTime":3202.7,"body":"wanna say, thank you to Yolanda,"},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3200.5,"endTime":3202.7,"body":"too. I- I really appreciate"},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3202.7,"endTime":3206.5,"body":"hearing about ... well,"},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3202.7,"endTime":3206.5,"body":"everything, really. It was- it"},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3206.5,"endTime":3209.0,"body":"was- it was good. I think what"},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3206.5,"endTime":3209.0,"body":"Bekah said is right. A lot of"},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3209.0,"endTime":3211.5,"body":"people are gonna find this"},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3209.0,"endTime":3211.5,"body":"really valuable. So, thank you"},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3211.5,"endTime":3212.565,"body":"again for coming on."},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3213.684,"endTime":3214.135,"body":"Bye."},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3217.717,"endTime":3219.817,"body":"Thank you for listening to"},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3217.717,"endTime":3219.817,"body":"this episode of the Virtual"},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3219.817,"endTime":3223.563,"body":"Coffee Podcast. This episode was"},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3219.817,"endTime":3223.563,"body":"produced by Dan Ott and Bekah"},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3223.563,"endTime":3226.0,"body":"Hawrot Weigel. 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