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Thank you."},{"speaker":"Kirk","startTime":3366.518,"endTime":3369.463,"body":"Thanks for coming to 'my'"},{"speaker":"Kirk","startTime":3366.518,"endTime":3369.463,"body":"podcast [Dan and Bekah chuckle]."},{"speaker":"Kirk","startTime":3369.463,"endTime":3372.408,"body":"See you later on 'my' podcast."},{"speaker":"Kirk","startTime":3369.463,"endTime":3372.408,"body":"Like, I let"},{"speaker":"Kirk","startTime":3372.409,"endTime":3377.298,"body":"Bekah and Dan be on because I'm"},{"speaker":"Kirk","startTime":3372.409,"endTime":3377.298,"body":"nice, and I never yell."},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3377.974,"endTime":3380.284,"body":"Thanks for allowing us to"},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3377.974,"endTime":3380.284,"body":"be on your podcast, Kirk."},{"speaker":"Kirk","startTime":3380.469,"endTime":3381.759,"body":"You're very welcome."},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3383.329,"endTime":3387.079,"body":"Kirk, I'll talk to you on"},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3383.329,"endTime":3387.079,"body":"Tuesday when ar- arguing with"},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3387.079,"endTime":3388.219,"body":"you about tip- TypeScript"},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3387.079,"endTime":3388.219,"body":"[chuckles]."},{"speaker":"Kirk","startTime":3388.809,"endTime":3390.458,"body":"With hushed tones. 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