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conversations and, and"},{"speaker":"Alex","startTime":3021.684,"endTime":3025.524,"body":"share the amazingness that"},{"speaker":"Alex","startTime":3025.524,"endTime":3026.994,"body":"we're cultivating together."},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3027.744,"endTime":3028.284,"body":"All right."},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3028.289,"endTime":3028.954,"body":"Thanks Alex."},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3029.419,"endTime":3029.839,"body":"Bye."},{"speaker":"Alex","startTime":3030.633,"endTime":3031.083,"body":"All right."},{"speaker":"Alex","startTime":3031.383,"endTime":3032.043,"body":"Bye."},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3035.148,"endTime":3037.338,"body":"Thank you so much for"},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3035.148,"endTime":3037.338,"body":"listening to this episode of"},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3037.338,"endTime":3038.578,"body":"the Virtual Coffee Podcast."},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3039.048,"endTime":3041.838,"body":"This episode was produced 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