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Well, thanks"},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3363.086,"endTime":3364.487,"body":"so much Aurelie"},{"speaker":"Aurelie","startTime":3364.972,"endTime":3365.811,"body":"thank you."},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3366.001,"endTime":3366.541,"body":"Thanks Aurelie."},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3367.072,"endTime":3373.978,"body":"Bye! Thank you for"},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3367.072,"endTime":3373.978,"body":"listening to this episode of the"},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3373.978,"endTime":3378.128,"body":"Virtual Coffee Podcast. This"},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3373.978,"endTime":3378.128,"body":"episode was produced by Dan Ott"},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3378.128,"endTime":3382.318,"body":"and Bekah Hawrot Weigel and"},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3378.128,"endTime":3382.318,"body":"edited by Dan Ott. 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