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So I don't know if any"},{"speaker":"Suze","startTime":3319.018,"endTime":3321.593,"body":"you"},{"speaker":"Suze","startTime":3321.594,"endTime":3325.733,"body":"have heard of global diversity"},{"speaker":"Suze","startTime":3321.594,"endTime":3325.733,"body":"CFP day. It is a, um, it's an"},{"speaker":"Suze","startTime":3325.733,"endTime":3328.463,"body":"annual event. 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If you've been with me for"},{"speaker":"Suze","startTime":3373.304,"endTime":3375.643,"body":"the whole six hours I was here"},{"speaker":"Suze","startTime":3376.184,"endTime":3378.764,"body":"people had, and one of them"},{"speaker":"Suze","startTime":3376.184,"endTime":3378.764,"body":"actually said I hadn't planned"},{"speaker":"Suze","startTime":3378.764,"endTime":3384.043,"body":"to, but it was so good I stayed."},{"speaker":"Suze","startTime":3378.764,"endTime":3384.043,"body":"So, uh, yeah. 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And I love"},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3396.518,"endTime":3400.179,"body":"that. if someone asks me to do a"},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3400.179,"endTime":3402.504,"body":"five-hour one, I, we easy, cause"},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3400.179,"endTime":3402.504,"body":"I've done a six hour one. I"},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3402.504,"endTime":3404.829,"body":"think"},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3404.829,"endTime":3408.148,"body":"that's a fun way to approach"},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3404.829,"endTime":3408.148,"body":"doing anything."},{"speaker":"Suze","startTime":3408.148,"endTime":3411.018,"body":"Yeah. Yeah. Five, 5 hours"},{"speaker":"Suze","startTime":3408.148,"endTime":3411.018,"body":"and 59 minutes. No problem."},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3411.728,"endTime":3416.259,"body":"I got this. Well, Thanks"},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3411.728,"endTime":3416.259,"body":"so much for being here with us"},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3416.259,"endTime":3419.648,"body":"today. This has been great to"},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3416.259,"endTime":3419.648,"body":"follow along the things that"},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3419.648,"endTime":3424.599,"body":"you've done and to hear all of"},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3419.648,"endTime":3424.599,"body":"your tips. So, thank you. And"},{"speaker":"Bekah","startTime":3424.659,"endTime":3425.378,"body":"we'll talk to you soon."},{"speaker":"Suze","startTime":3426.018,"endTime":3427.938,"body":"Thanks. Thanks. for"},{"speaker":"Suze","startTime":3426.018,"endTime":3427.938,"body":"inviting me. It's been a"},{"speaker":"Suze","startTime":3427.938,"endTime":3428.389,"body":"pleasure."},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3429.318,"endTime":3429.858,"body":"right, bye."},{"speaker":"Suze","startTime":3430.159,"endTime":3430.548,"body":"Bye."},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3434.393,"endTime":3436.702,"body":"Thank you for listening to"},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3434.393,"endTime":3436.702,"body":"this episode of the Virtual"},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3436.702,"endTime":3440.222,"body":"Coffee Podcast. This episode was"},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3436.702,"endTime":3440.222,"body":"produced by Dan Ott and Bekah"},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3440.242,"endTime":3443.402,"body":"Hawrot Weigel, and was edited by"},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3440.242,"endTime":3443.402,"body":"Andy Bonjour at GoodDay"},{"speaker":"Dan","startTime":3443.422,"endTime":3446.213,"body":"Communications. 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